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Re: yoroi clan kyogoku Tozama Mineyama Tango
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:41 am
by Michel Lavigne
I admit that I don't know what "kogire" and "egawa" are ... for egawa I only found a school of carving ....... thank you for "enlightening me ":-)
Re: yoroi clan kyogoku Tozama Mineyama Tango
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:25 am
by Piers Dowding
These pages show all the various Kyōgoku Kamon. Top left of photo 2 says “Minéyama Kyōgoku”.
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Re: yoroi clan kyogoku Tozama Mineyama Tango
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:25 am
by Michel Lavigne
yes I find the same on the "ko ji ko ten" must I understand that the fact that there is no circle means that it is not the right one?
Re: yoroi clan kyogoku Tozama Mineyama Tango
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:37 am
by Michel Lavigne
Thanks to UWE for telling me what is written under the "mon" that it could find, I may have been misled in my research, I unfortunately do not have the possibility to read Japanese thank you
Re: yoroi clan kyogoku Tozama Mineyama Tango
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:07 pm
by Luc Taelman
Michel Lavigne wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:41 am
I admit that I don't know what "kogire" and "egawa" are ... for egawa I only found a school of carving ....... thank you for "enlightening me ":-)
the kogire are the small shoulder protectors, fixed on the watagami by hinges. Egawa is printed doe skin.
Re: yoroi clan kyogoku Tozama Mineyama Tango
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:29 pm
by Michel Lavigne
a big thank you for this explanation, I realize that the "glossary" that I can consult on armor is poor ...... I would like to find a very detailed book, would you have one to advise me? thank you
Re: yoroi clan kyogoku Tozama Mineyama Tango
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:27 pm
by Uwe Sacklowski
Seems a little typo crept in....it should be named "kobire"!
Re: yoroi clan kyogoku Tozama Mineyama Tango
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:11 pm
by Michel Lavigne
Uwe, thanks, I'm doing some research and I "stumbled upon" a site: nihon-no-katchu ......
I am very "new" in the collection, I think I need to find a well detailed book on armor, there are so many names for each item ... I also do research to find the translation of " mon "which perfectly resembles mine that you communicated to me on n ° 101, if you have the translation I am the taker. Thank you
Re: yoroi clan kyogoku Tozama Mineyama Tango
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:49 pm
by Luc Taelman
Uwe Sacklowski wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:27 pm
Seems a little typo crept in....it should be named "kobire"!
Yep, my mistake
Re: yoroi clan kyogoku Tozama Mineyama Tango
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:00 pm
by Uwe Sacklowski
Michel,
„Nihon no Katchu“ is one of the old (now dead) armor forums....
When it comes to books, it will become a bit complicated.
There is hardly any „overall work“, but quite some interesting publications to read. Let me think about some suggestions....I hope at this point others chiming in
Unfortunately, the „Big mon-book“ I have (thanks to Jo!), has no accompanied translation. Hence cumbersome to work with...