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Re: menpo

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:08 pm
by Piers Dowding
The label says:
水戸明珍
義臣作の面頬

= Mito Myōchin
Yoshi(o)mi Saku no Menpo

= Menpo/Menbo made by Yoshiomi of the Mito Myōchin.

So, it generally looks right, therefore there is a possibility that the label may be genuine.

Re: menpo

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:58 am
by Michel Lavigne
yes the menpo is ryubu type, on the other hand in all the research that I have been able to do, I have only found one menpo with inome ...

Re: menpo

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:09 am
by Michel Lavigne
inome and detail menpo

Re: menpo

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:24 am
by Michel Lavigne
detail

Re: menpo

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:15 pm
by Uwe Sacklowski
Here another example. Kojima Myôchin in this case....

Kojima Munetaka2.jpg
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Re: menpo

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:54 pm
by Michel Lavigne
yes indeed, on this one it is the "ase nagashi no ana"? thank you

Re: menpo

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:34 pm
by Luc Taelman
Munetaka (宗孝) – Yasu ́emon, received a stipend for three persons in the third year of Ansei (1856), died in the first year of Keiô (1865), younger brother: Munenobu ( 宗 将 = a.k.a. Munenaga [致将]; succeeded as Tamesaburô [為三郎] of the Kojima family [小島]),
student(s): Munemitsu (宗光, = Yamada Chôzaburô, 山田長三郎)
(Studies on arms and armor, Orikasa sensei)

Re: menpo

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:46 pm
by Luc Taelman
Yoshiomi started his carreer as Yoshiomi in 1844, died in 1868.

Re: menpo

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:43 am
by Piers Dowding
Referring to the label, I have just realized :idea: that the おみ down the middle is the reading of the 臣 character for those Japanese who cannot read it!

(Sometimes these things take time. Apologies.)

Re: menpo

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:19 am
by Michel Lavigne
hello Luc, thank you ... I have JC Charbonnier's books and I already spoke to him on the phone. I also have r burawoy's book, meiko zukan I also have about fifty bulletins from the Franco-Japanese association, in which R burawoy has published a lot of articles ... in fact my detailed book search comes from so in my books I didn't find the words "kogire" or "kobire" and "egawa", so I was wondering if there was a book with all these details.
On the other hand, I do not understand the relationship with my "Munetaka Yasu" armor ???