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Re: Images of the last Samurai

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 2:00 pm
by Aymeric Antien
Henry
The North West Mounted Police (1873-1920) was a Canadian police force for the Northwest Territories at the time of their colonization in the nineteenth century .I took a look at Canadian history at that time .. and again it's not easy .. We need Canadians to know more .. (John, Sylvain ??) But I imagine that ... this Blackfoot warrior seems very well equipped for the time and it is very possible that his armament was given to him and provided "officially" the katana replacing a classic "cavalry sword". .. he could be proud of it .. the best sword of the Canadian mounted police at the time!
A French warrior in Japan, a Japanese warrior in France, a native Indian warrior equipped with a Japanese sword in Canada (with the historical shadow of the British, French and American governments) .. three destinies caught in the torment of history .. strange dream .. are the warriors still the losers of the story ? or simply puppets ?or simply men from ancient times who are trying to survive?
Henry thank you for Ansel Adam photographer link
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Re: Images of the last Samurai

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 2:40 pm
by John Wee Tom
Interesting posts guys!

Aymeric, your last post with the Edward S. Curtis photogravure of the Oglala War Party brought to mind my E.S. Curtis "Apsaroke War Group", a bad picture of which is included here:

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Re: Images of the last Samurai

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 4:22 pm
by Aymeric Antien
John .. it's been a long time since I've been interested in Indian Native American tribes... who owe their disappearance to the sickness and disappearances of their hunting territories and therefore to their resources much more than to armed confrontations and their fighting resistance. Diseases unknown to these populations as of memory ... the chickenpox that was really deadly. (The equivalent of the black plague (pestilence
) in Europe for the Indians?) It seems that the nomads of the steppes were faced with the same difficulties. they had been the most feared warriors as we will see in their time. Types of "nomadic civilization" that have had the greatest difficulty adapting quickly to the sédentarisation and the change of their way of life....the last "samurai" of the plain?
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Re: Images of the last Samurai

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 4:39 pm
by John Wee Tom
Indeed, Aymeric! Growing up watching Hollywood westerns, I think I might have been one of the only ones who sympathized with the "Indians" and admired their bravery, abilities, ways, weapons, clothing and regalia.

Re: Images of the last Samurai

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 5:35 pm
by Aymeric Antien
Difficult not to fall into a chasm "philosophical" when we know the history of the 20 th century .. two really terrible world war with for the first in any case an "idiocy of the military command" cried (in this one at least we massacred very copiously between "civilized" people) in a trench war.
being when it is the " grown fruit " and "revenchard" of the first with good booster by the rise of the nationalism and the obscurantism .. that of the 21st century? The same bullshit that spring up at high speed ... the memory of the peoples is short, the identical mechanisms and powerful men probably dangerous even more .. since they are now enough to press a small button ... What want you John we are great "romantics" we love battles with bows and arrows, sabers (that it cuts and we must not let the children play in front of the TV) spears (that it stings too) and the rifle is almost not very funny ... (it's holes in the helmets and that's not funny at all ... look at your last helmet full of humps .Well John , what do you want ... look at this Indian with his necklace bone"armor" and his "mongolian" cap... frankly it makes me laugh I always have to say stupid (it's stronger than me)
asks George the truth? ... what does he think of that?
he will tell you that the old world is buried since 1876
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Re: Images of the last Samurai

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 1:28 am
by Henry Jones
Amyeric and John,

Here is the junction of Pacific Northwest native people, trade with mainland Asia and Armor.

From American Museum of Natural History:

"The Tlingit Indians are a prominent Native American group who still live in southeast Alaska. The armor of the 19th-century Tlingit is notable for its expert construction and expressive artistry.

The Tlingit body armor demonstrates a late-19th-century convergence of three cultures: the beautifully crafted armor is covered in Chinese coins the Tlingit received in trade from Boston sea merchants in exchange for sea otter pelts."

Re: Images of the last Samurai

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 1:30 am
by Henry Jones
Tlingit armor made of Manchu coins.

Re: Images of the last Samurai

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 1:43 am
by John Wee Tom
Wow, looks like a manchira - thanks for sharing Henry!

Re: Images of the last Samurai

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 1:48 am
by Henry Jones
Haha totally John, that's what I thought too...One kind of looks like a Manchira, another like a Dou.

Re: Images of the last Samurai

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 2:46 am
by Henry Jones
Chukchi Warriors, Eastern most Siberia and Alaska near Bering Strait

Lamellar Bone Armor at Russian Museum of Ethnography

Cousin Richard, I apologize that we have completely digressed from the original topic.

Aymeric you are a terrible influence!